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How swine-flu could save your life (28 Apr 2009)

 
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Bruce Simpson
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: How swine-flu could save your life (28 Apr 2009) Reply with quote

This column is archived at: http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2009/0428.shtml

Could exposure to this mild form of swine flu be a life-saver?

Well according to information from the CDC that might well be the case -- so why even bother to try and prevent its spread.

Surely this auto-inoculation against a possibly far more fatal variant would be a good thing?

Could it be that we've dodged another bullet by first encountering this mild form of the virus before a more lethal one appears?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: How swine-flu could save your life (28 Apr 2009) Reply with quote

Bruce Simpson wrote:
This column is archived at: http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2009/0428.shtml

Could exposure to this mild form of swine flu be a life-saver?

Well according to information from the CDC that might well be the case -- so why even bother to try and prevent its spread.

Surely this auto-inoculation against a possibly far more fatal variant would be a good thing?

Could it be that we've dodged another bullet by first encountering this mild form of the virus before a more lethal one appears?


This also brings up the decision to use Tamiflu against it.

Currently this flu does not appear to be striking people down at a rate of knots, and is delivering rather mild symptoms.

One great fear in terms of antibiotic resistance, is for the authorities to be tossing tamiflu at it willy nilly, have some people not finish their treatment, and allow the current strain to develop an immunity to Tamiflu, and then bang all our stock piles become expensive warehouse fillers.

But I trust that their are brighter minds than mine concerned with this issue,
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: How swine-flu could save your life (28 Apr 2009) Reply with quote

mad wrote:
This also brings up the decision to use Tamiflu against it.

Currently this flu does not appear to be striking people down at a rate of knots, and is delivering rather mild symptoms.

One great fear in terms of antibiotic resistance, is for the authorities to be tossing tamiflu at it willy nilly, have some people not finish their treatment, and allow the current strain to develop an immunity to Tamiflu, and then bang all our stock piles become expensive warehouse fillers.

But I trust that their are brighter minds than mine concerned with this issue,


Flu is viral, not bacterial, so concerns about antibiotics aren't necessary.

I can't remember who tamiflu actually works, but I don't think that its use leads to resistance forming in the virus population....
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: How swine-flu could save your life (28 Apr 2009) Reply with quote

BTMO wrote:
I can't remember who tamiflu actually works, but I don't think that its use leads to resistance forming in the virus population....

I think resistance does become an issue -- insomuch as those strains that are vulnerable become suppressed which leads to the emergence and proliferation of those strains that have mutated to be resistant.

Here's what Google News kicked up when I searched for tamiflu resistance

NZ Experts Eye Swine Flu's Potential For Resistance To Tamiflu
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am glad I both have had my flu shots and caught a mild case of the flu. I should be on the safe list.

But I am not labelling this swine flu outbreak as either an epidemic ort a pandemic but rather as far as I am concerned it is a mediademic, as I also mentioned in the comments section of the very good piece on The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/27/swine_flu1/).

It is nothing more than a mass(turbating?) media inspired panic totally out of all proportion to the actual situation.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get flu shots and the last time I got the flu was in 1991. Does that mean that I'm immuned or waiting for the big nasty to arrive??

On a related note. Anyone see the Sky movie last nite called Doomsday with a story line based on a nasty virus hitting Scotland and the way it was dealt with?? Sure hate to set it done that way here..
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulw wrote:
I don't get flu shots and the last time I got the flu was in 1991. Does that mean that I'm immuned or waiting for the big nasty to arrive??


I can beat that. I don't get flu shots, and I haven't had the flu since 1982...

Cheesy Grin

(I remember the year, because I was in the navy at the time, and I remember which ship I was on when it happened. I spent the day in bed, during family day - a cruise out from Sydney Heads for the day. The person in the next bunk assumed I was sea-sick, as she was. She was wrong...)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTMO wrote:
I can beat that. I don't get flu shots, and I haven't had the flu since 1982...

The reason it has a relatively high mortality rate amongst young, healthy people is that it triggers the immune system into going into overdrive, which is what causes the real damage. So I suspect (based on an uneducated guess) that those of you who rarely get sick are at more risk. I think that's fair trade for waving your "never catching the flu" in front of the rest of us Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTMO wrote:

I can beat that. I don't get flu shots, and I haven't had the flu since 1982...


I can't beat that, I go down with something nasty every year or so, I don't bother putting a name to it. I don't like taking drugs and injections etc. The only weapon I use for it is a single malt scotch, one of us gives in eventually, me or the bug. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

roygbiv wrote:
BTMO wrote:

I can beat that. I don't get flu shots, and I haven't had the flu since 1982...


I can't beat that, I go down with something nasty every year or so, I don't bother putting a name to it. I don't like taking drugs and injections etc. The only weapon I use for it is a single malt scotch, one of us gives in eventually, me or the bug. Smile


LOL!!

Actually, I know that works. I have had the beginnings of a cold a couple of times, and have gargled strong, spiritous liquor (I love that expression...) - and then swallowed.

In each case, the cold gave up, or I gave up caring about it...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think alcohol actually lowers your immunity and I doubt that it would kill all the invading virus particles once you'd started noticing symptoms.

Perhaps it works because even though you're crook, you really don't care.

That's what I like about nitrous oxide as an anesthetic -- you can still feel the pain but you really don't give a damn Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce Simpson wrote:
I think alcohol actually lowers your immunity and I doubt that it would kill all the invading virus particles once you'd started noticing symptoms.

Perhaps it works because even though you're crook, you really don't care.

That's what I like about nitrous oxide as an anesthetic -- you can still feel the pain but you really don't give a damn Smile


Way to harsh our buzz, Capt Bringdown...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should i close my home daycare center because of the swine flu?
I live in San Diego and own a home daycare. With the swine flu going around should i close my daycare down? Should I remind the parents about the swine flu? How do i get information about school /child care closesures in my area. Im sorry I just couldnt find anything online at the moment.
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