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A good-news story (at last) (22 Oct 2008)

 
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Bruce Simpson
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject: A good-news story (at last) (22 Oct 2008) Reply with quote

This column is archived at: http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2008/1022.shtml

The NZ Steel story shows that Kiwis still have what it takes to achieve the impossible and solve the unsolvable problems.

So given that we have all these smart people to whom impossibility is no hurdle, what's stopping us from moving up the OECD list of nations and becoming a major player in the hi-tech world?

We seem to have the ingredients (grit, determination, skill and knowledge) - so why are we languishing so badly?

Is it a lack of proper venture capital funding?

A lack of vision?

A lack of suitable government policy?

Or are we just victims of that other great Kiwi saying "she'll be right"
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: A good-news story (at last) (22 Oct 2008) Reply with quote

Bruce Simpson wrote:
The NZ Steel story shows that Kiwis still have what it takes to achieve the impossible and solve the unsolvable problems.

My heart were lifted when I read this story. We really CAN do anything.
The executives who completed this task should be given a big bonus for their ingenuity. Or a remuneration along the lines of CONTACT directors.
I just wish our government was more forthcoming to put in place policies to encourage research and development to pull us through the next decade.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: A good-news story (at last) (22 Oct 2008) Reply with quote

Bruce Simpson wrote:
This column is archived at: http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2008/1022.shtml

The NZ Steel story shows that Kiwis still have what it takes to achieve the impossible and solve the unsolvable problems.



It is a very heart-warming story, and I do hope that the blindingly obvious has now happened, and that the contract for the spares has been given to the NZ company, with the Norwegians being told that "if you snooze you loose".
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: A good-news story (at last) (22 Oct 2008) Reply with quote

mad wrote:
Bruce Simpson wrote:
This column is archived at: http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2008/1022.shtml

The NZ Steel story shows that Kiwis still have what it takes to achieve the impossible and solve the unsolvable problems.



It is a very heart-warming story, and I do hope that the blindingly obvious has now happened, and that the contract for the spares has been given to the NZ company, with the Norwegians being told that "if you snooze you loose".


No doubt the Norwegians will be sueing NZ steel over a IP violation in the near future?? Coying their moldings and producing fake items..
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: A good-news story (at last) (22 Oct 2008) Reply with quote

Bruce Simpson wrote:
This column is archived at: http://aardvark.co.nz/daily/2008/1022.shtml
So given that we have all these smart people to whom impossibility is no hurdle, what's stopping us from moving up the OECD list of nations and becoming a major player in the hi-tech world?
We seem to have the ingredients (grit, determination, skill and knowledge) - so why are we languishing so badly?
Is it a lack of proper venture capital funding?
A lack of vision?
A lack of suitable government policy?"

All of the above, but also, according to a mate who works in the industry here in Chch, a chronic inability to keep teams intact. Cullen was at least partly right that blokes in sheds are hard-pressed to come up with the goods these days, even Munroe couldn't have built a Britten. Ideas maybe, but rarely the whole kaboodle.
Apparently we are desperate for engineers as much as scientists and every time a good team gets up to steam, either the FORST contracts run out or key members get poached overseas.
That being said, we do still punch above our weight, but it rarely makes the newsmedia.
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edwin



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce, that is a great story.

So if we are one of the best innovators in the world, I assume we reguarly have exhibits at the world's largest invention expo (http://www.inventions-geneva.ch/)? And I assume we regularly receive a prize or two?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NZ Steel.
I assume they make #8 wire?
Says it all really.....
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also a sense of self-satisfaction. I got really pissed-off with the average Kiwi smugness in 2003, when people in the Chch Press were writing in daily it seemed, praising ourselves and patting ourselves on the back because of Richard Pearse. He's the classic case of how to stifle inventiveness in its cradle - and this stifling stupidity's also homegrown Kiwiana.

The NZ Steel team are brilliant, and well worth the praise, but scoring a hole-in-one once in a lifetime doesn't make you a Golf Pro.

I myself suspect we can blame the Great Kiwi Knocking Machine for our lack-luster performance as a nation of inventors. There's nothing like a pack of "peers" - piers more like it - telling you that you're a loser for trying, and refusing to help, etc, to put a hole in the side of any boat you're trying to float.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst I can't claim to have invented anything (yet!), I have tried many different things and made a number of different attempts.

Always I've found that people are generally very supportive. No-one wants to knock me down, no-one tries to suggest I'm a nutter for trying. Everyone says positive things.

So just where are these supposed tall poppy people? I actually think they don't exist and that they're a figment of our imagination. I've yet to meet one of these people that put other people's ideas down.


At the same time, I'm with WesleyParish in that sometimes we seem to go on about how good we are and call up the usual repertoire of 3 or 4 well-known kiwi inventions that were developed some time in the last 50 years. It just doesn't cut it.

I'd be the last person to get tall poppy syndrome, but I'm also the first to recognise that we often think we are much better than we really are. C'mon, let's keep it *real*.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we can get a bit big headed over "our" accomplishments. Have to remember we are only a tiny part of the work population - we are 0.000667% of the world population, so we can't expect to figure highly in the world invention scales.

I don't think much of the so called tall poppy myth either.

I have invented a few things and come up with ideas, have tried to get somewhere with the odd one or two but have not carried them through. Partly due to time, partly due to finance, and partly due to a lack of confidence in them actually being as great ideas as I had originally thought. Some ideas I have had have appeared as other peoples successful ideas.

It isn't practical to throw money at every "great" idea anyone comes up with, most are probably not commercial viable anyway. And some may be great ideas that just aren't made to work commercially. Bad luck, bad timing, bad execution. Some take a lot of time.

There are a lot more than a handlefull of kiwi inventions, happening beneath the normal radar. A god example is a company I have been keeping an eye on for a few years - Blis. Their product took 20 years to develop by university scientists and has been commericalised over the past 5 years, and it is hard to say still whether it will succeed. Another is BotryZen, sounds to me like a great natural product but it has really struggled to make commercial headway. It's hard to make it here.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter wrote:

I don't think much of the so called tall poppy myth either.

I have invented a few things and come up with ideas, have tried to get somewhere with the odd one or two but have not carried them through.

Peter, your first comment is related to your last. The Tall Poppy syndrome is only effected on those that are extremely successful, have reached the top and a public figure. I have not experienced the tall poppy syndrome either but then I am not known to the public (and I've got a way to go until I'm at the top!) But after living my first 30 years in NZ and now having spent the last 8 years out of, it I can say looking from a distance, that there is a Tall Poppy syndrome in NZ. In fact there is a culture of being bashful in being openly successful.
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