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MrCarbJB



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:09 am    Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

Written by GadgetMan
Tuesday, 05 May 2009 02:34
Throttle Body Mod Saves Fuel, Gives Power.

I think I've tried everything to save money on gas. I've had some real successes along the way too-like an 84 Ford Tempo I took from 18.6 to 108.3 miles per gallon. On Gas fumes...

If I can do that in my dad's driveway with a pipe wrench and a pair of pliers, do you think Detroit...?

But that's a battle that every fuel economy researcher faces every time they try something new. The control systems are engineered to maintain a certain level of fuel consumption, no matter your efforts to make your engine more efficient.

Plugs, plug wires, high energy ignition-even premium fuels-they all lead to very short-lived gains. You may get a benefit for a short period, but the computer always negates your efforts (and the expense!).

Pretty frustrating, actually.

The same can be said about HHO, except worse. You see, the ECU (Engine Control Unit) uses the oxygen content of the exhaust to meter the air/fuel ratio. When you have more Oxygen, it dumps more fuel, regardless of how well the engine runs. It is programmed to have a certain amount of pollutants, no matter what!

In my research, trying to figure out a way to defeat this programming-LEGALLY-I stumbled on something. A rumor, a testimony here and there, and I began doing some testing on a new principle. What I found was nothing short of amazing.

What if I could make your car burn more of the fuel it is being fed? WITHOUT adding any chemicals or changing any sensors or "remapping" your ECU?

I can.

With the help of friends (One actually) I have developed a method of changing a little part called the "Throttle Body" in such a way that it causes the fuel to burn more efficiently-REGARDLESS of what the ECU says. My method causes a little pulse in the pressure wave inside your intake, literally causing the fuel to vaporize completely.

More vaporization, a better burn. More complete burn, less oxygen in the tailpipe. Less oxygen in the tailpipe, and the ECU shortens the pulse. The shorter the pulse, the less fuel you use.

All under the control of the ECU.

The results?

My 2001 Land Rover went from 210 a tank to over 500. A 2001 Excursion gained 74%. A 97 Suburban gained 91.4%. A 2001 Dodge Durango is now going three weeks on the same gas that used to last her a week. And it'll burn rubber for over 400 feet (don't ask me how I know!).

The problem comes in with the year models affected. It seems that after 2002, the ECU's are resetting the fuel consumption soon after the client vehicle achieves some benefit.

Just like with HHO. We get a gain for a short period and the ECU gradually (or quickly!) resets itself to KEEP DELIVERING FUEL AT THE OLD RATE OF CONSUMPTION.

It can not get better,

It can only get worse.

But this modification works on every car (Pre-2002) to increase the power of the burn. You can always feel the power. Just after 2002, your ECU needs to be reset every tank or the mileage gains won't last.

I don't know about you guys, but this reminds me of the case against the tobacco companies. You remember, the one they lost when it was revealed they were in the "Nicotine Delivery Device" business? What if Detroit... and the EPA... and the FTC... and the oil companies...?

What if global corporate interests have joined together in a mutual benefit society to rape, pillage and plunder the pocketbooks of every human on the planet with a car? Meanwhile allowing the children of the most populous cities to become poisoned by the very air they breathe.

Look at the national Asthma statistics in children for a real eye-opener. Then compare that to the consumption of fuel. On the EPA website (Energy Efficiency Division) they tell us "Fuel economy is at its lowest pint in history." This, despite the legislation that was to guarantee us 50mpg STANDARD by 2000.

But then, it's all about the money, isn't it? Until their children and their parents are the ones dying...

Not for me.

To let you know, GM (Government Motors-through a colleague of mine) has offered me in the high eight figures for this technology.

Should I sell it to them? I'd rather sell it to you for $250. I think I'll sleep better at night.

Look for it soon at www.GadgetmansCoolCarMods.com. If you can't wait, then e-mail me.

I am Gadgetman, and I care.

Gadgetman at ClubHHO.com

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As free will of men must be preserved...

As the Lord does take Glory In All Things...

As it is given for you Faith...

As we are known by our works...

As well as our Charity...

May it be known as His Buffer crop in His Name sake...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laugh! I nearly did. I cannot believe this brazen attempt to defraud people. This mod apparently works only on pre 2002 models because after that satage the ECU realises you are trying to save fuel and just adds more. What a complete load of garbage.

GM Holden spent over a million dollars here in Australia to make a last minute modification to the transmission so the vehicle's economy would improve by 0.1 litres per 100km driven. If a manufacturer is going to these costs and lengths to improve fuel economy, why then sabotage that with some secret code that is designed to defeat any savings achieved.

If it wasn't for the fact that some fools will be deceived by this it would be funny! I also like the bit that HHO Gadgetman was offered an eight figure sum, but turned it down - how altruistic of him. He's turned his back on HHO - I'm shocked! What about all that information he was giving before - the 'proof' that HHO was the goods? You mean all that was a scam? I'm shocked!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:18 pm    Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

Well Marc, I'm glad you got a laugh out that as I was wondering if anyone would notice what all he was saying here, as I was hoping someone would remember about what I said about my 2003 GMC. But Marc, I would have not thought you would have given it so much credibility, though. As I was just showing you that Gadgetman is on his own with His statements here and He is no longer any friend of mine as you can see that he has set his way against me...as instead of with me as you can see his attempt here, right? As I have told you that he is a liar and a thief and this proves it and it is or was on his home page of his club. And he has forbid me to contact him any more for correction. Therefore, may it be known that he is a liar and a cheat...And he should be exposed for what he is...As he tries to assume any and all credit unto his self with no credit for anyone else and of course you know God frounds on such behaviour and definitely offends His Spirit and therefore Gadgetman has no truth in him...And by this statement he also wishes to claim credit for something for which he had no clue. And his statements reveal it, here. And the only difference now is he no longer wishes too sell it too GM but you...And if GM offered to buy such for him, I'm afraid that you would all be out of luck as he would sell it in a heart beat. So now you can see for yourself what Gadgetman's intentions are here, can't you??? As I gave him a little bait and he swallowed it hook line and sinker. As you should have seen this liar coming ten miles away...And my assassination of him is true and correct...As I have declared about my results with my 2003 and if his statement was correct then how did I obtain my results...As I have done no different. No efie, no map controls, no nothing except factory equip. modifications, such as my mod and electrolyzer...As God has agreed to use him for a short season til this liar can be replaced with one who at least knows the Truth...
And thanks again Marc, for helping to expose him for what he is...And all should know...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:50 am    Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

Our Lord Is The Greatest Mechanic Who Ever Lived As He Makes It All Work...
Oh and did I mention that I still enjoy fishing as well as I enjoy that fight and for no other rea2258%2Emsg3son and will put it back for someone elses enjoyment later...

[Edit by Greg - link removed]
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:50 am    Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

And the reason I did it this way was to show Bruce that it could be done and he should take his Million Dollars and invest it in his country's future and send me 10% would have been nice but after you all seem to think it was a miracle or something then I had to step back and look at the big picture and The Lord to speak to my heart and I did listen...And is why I have given it so all may know and benefit...And to let shameful people do the Lord's Work is only tolerable through His Amazing Grace And He does use him so you may know...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

And I do give all Glory to God for revealing to me so that I may Boast Of Him, for I know that I am dust and ashes without Him.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:20 am    Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

So if you want to crucify me, may it be like Paul as I Know I am not worthy...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrCarbJB, give it a rest. Your ramblings are costing me bandwidth and if you continue your account will be suspended. This ain't your private preaching forum.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:30 am    Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

Please Forgive me Greg as The Lord compell's me To declare the Truth as I know it. And it was given that all should know and Witness The Amazing Grace Of God...Please don't not write yourself out of His Book Of Life by trying to take away from God's Will...

And the reason I did it this way was to show Bruce that it could be done and he should take his Million Dollars and invest it in his country's future and send me 10% would have been nice but after you all seem to think it was a miracle or something then I had to step back and look at the big picture and The Lord to speak to my heart and I did listen...And is why I have given it so all may know and benefit...And to let shameful people do the Lord's Work is only tolerable through His Amazing Grace And He does use Him so you may know...


For Our Lord does set His Stage so all may Know His Amazing Grace and In doing what Ron Hatton did was squarely Taking anything that I could ever done for him and put it all in God's Hands. Therefore, God does want you to witness His Mighty Hand as God Himself shows you His Amazing Grace...For every breathe that this man takes is purely by the Grace of God...

For Ron Hatton has committed the unforgiveable Sin, in the sight of God and in knowing and without repentence being available. It is guaranteed to be a site to behold...And God Himself set His Stage so all may know His Amazing Grace First Hand...His Hand...
Amen(So Be It)
For Our Lord Is The Lord Of Host...
May God Have Mercy on Ron Hatton's Soul...

For I am a witness of His Amazing Grace for which I must bare witness of such and must declare such. So All May Know Of His Amazing Grace Before It Is Withdrawn...As All Shall Know Him...Before Grace is withdrawn...How else shall You Know Him But By Reading Of Him In His Holy Word Found No Where But His Holy Bible...As It Was Given That All Should Know... Your Choice Whether You Choose To Accept It...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why am I not at all shocked that the same scammer who believes in the technologically and mathematically impossible nonsense of "HHO" also wants to sell us a bit of invisible sky-daddy?

How hilarious. Laughing

pssssst: WTF is on with the caps on random words?

Screamingly funny. Cheesy Grin
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Online Gamer wrote:
You can see how much backup he has on this Weez, hes an authority unto himself. Better be scared.. roll eyes


Oh, I am. *giggle*

MrCarbJB wrote:
James Bryer And let it be known that HHO Gadgetman/ Ron Hutton has admitted to me that he is putting his name on this and is in negotions to sell it to GM for what he called and offer of 50 million dollars


GM has other priorities at this moment than to get soaked by a pseudoscience scammer, don'tcha think? Laughing

Bryer, you're a bullsh!t artist from go to whoa.

minutiae59 wrote:
Or are you running it on Red Bull?


It's definitely bull. Whether it's red or not remains to be proven. Cheesy Grin

minutiae59 wrote:
To maintain a farce like this is a unique talent.


Talent not required. It's more likely to be an obsessive-compulsive disorder. Cheesy Grin

Greg wrote:
MrCarbJB, give it a rest. Your ramblings are costing me bandwidth and if you continue your account will be suspended. This ain't your private preaching forum.


jeez, Greg, why didn't you slam the door on this nutbag months ago?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

weez wrote:

jeez, Greg, why didn't you slam the door on this nutbag months ago?

I would've but its Bruce's forum and he's let it go on. I only manage it.

However the whole lot may be purged when I upgrade to a new version soon - I could accidently stuff up and any and/or all threads and posts may be lost.

Crying or Very sad Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That'd be sad, Greg- but all is not lost!

McDipsh!t is busy pasting bits of this thread all over the place, including comments from me, in places where I never posted anything and would never be able to respond to his hilarious nonsense. McWacko's game is preponderance- he reckons that the mere numbers of appearances of his tripe on the internet make him righter. Coherence or proof not required.

I find it both telling and screamingly funny that he's so rattled that he's descending into incorporating religiobabble into his latest skidmarks on the underwear of the internet. I fully expect to hear that he's been doing meth and frequenting rent boys. Religion is the gateway drug, you know. Cheesy Grin
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:00 pm    Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

Greg wrote:
weez wrote:

jeez, Greg, why didn't you slam the door on this nutbag months ago?

I would've but its Bruce's forum and he's let it go on. I only manage it.

However the whole lot may be purged when I upgrade to a new version soon - I could accidently stuff up and any and/or all threads and posts may be lost.

Crying or Very sad Wink


Well I have told them so if they wanted to know then I think they have had plenty of time and if I'm costing you band width then may you purge it as God wouldn't want you to suffer for His name sake...Would He?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF, complete incoherence. Response almost fully unconnected to quoted text.

I'm gonna invent myself a god so I can tell people what it thinks. It's astonishingly effective for making salient points, innit? Cheesy Grin

Screw it, I'm gonna go Greek and get a whole frickin' pantheon of gods. I mean, I need a god just for my cottage cheese. I LOVE cottage cheese. Maybe two. One for large and one for small curd. Maybe the large curd god could be a little bigger and lumpier. Then I could tell people that She modeled cottage cheese in the image of Her own thighs. Yeah.... that sounds good.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

weez wrote:
WTF, complete incoherence. Response almost fully unconnected to quoted text.

I'm gonna invent myself a god so I can tell people what it thinks. It's astonishingly effective for making salient points, innit? Cheesy Grin

Screw it, I'm gonna go Greek and get a whole frickin' pantheon of gods. I mean, I need a god just for my cottage cheese. I LOVE cottage cheese. Maybe two. One for large and one for small curd. Maybe the large curd god could be a little bigger and lumpier. Then I could tell people that She modeled cottage cheese in the image of Her own thighs. Yeah.... that sounds good.


Thanks for all that praise as you are making it to easy...As your response is in total alignment of all you know, so may it be known...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am making it to easy? I wasn't even headed toward easy, how shall I presume to get there?

Your mastery of English is equivalent to your mastery of physics, McNutball.

Hey, can I interest you in a Jesus4000 fool injection system? A million parsecs to the hogshead! Would be more if it wasn't for the Arnott's conspiracy. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

weez wrote:
I am making it to easy? I wasn't even headed toward easy, how shall I presume to get there?

Your mastery of English is equivalent to your mastery of physics, McNutball.

Hey, can I interest you in a Jesus4000 fool injection system? A million parsecs to the hogshead! Would be more if it wasn't for the Arnott's conspiracy. Laughing


In light of Isiah 6:9, for surely I should not be granted such high praise but that Ok, As I give all my Glory To God as well...
And God Takes Glory In All Things...
For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and loose His Soul...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well, I guess that really does wrap up the discussion nicely. It's a shame that MrCarbJB descending into religious nuttery and couldn't stick to scientific fact finding and actually be interested in a valid reason for his (and others) claims.

Honestly, 250mph using nothing but a <300HP V8 truck and HHO?
What were Bugatti thinking, spending millions of dollars on developement of the Veyron, they should have just contacted MrCarbJB!
Hmm, maybe Bugatti didn't perform the necassary prayer?

Thanks weez, nice to have someone take the absolute and utter piss out of this idiot.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

scribble wrote:
Oh well, I guess that really does wrap up the discussion nicely. It's a shame that MrCarbJB descending into religious nuttery and couldn't stick to scientific fact finding and actually be interested in a valid reason for his (and others) claims.

Honestly, 250mph using nothing but a <300HP V8 truck and HHO?
What were Bugatti thinking, spending millions of dollars on developement of the Veyron, they should have just contacted MrCarbJB!
Hmm, maybe Bugatti didn't perform the necassary prayer?

Thanks weez, nice to have someone take the absolute and utter piss out of this idiot.


And you didn't think 600 hp was nothing on just pump gas, either did you?
And you must have forgotten about laying rubber at 90 mph when I shifted that automatic 350 into 3 rd at 6500 rpm, with my whimpy no torque having short stroked 337, with a single 4 bbl. Quadra-jet. You didn't seem to think that wasn't that unbelievable, did you?

...LOL...That's all...you got...For surely you must Love Your Lord more Than that as you showed more anger when I was only talking about HHO...I start talking about God And you Think It's Over ohhh...my friend's I have you know it(season) has only begun...As you know who invited me here and he will confess to the Truth before it is over because he will know the Truth...As it is written...Otherwise, there will be no Truth In Him... As it has been disclared and yet no answer...


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

weez wrote:
I am making it to easy? I wasn't even headed toward easy, how shall I presume to get there?

Your mastery of English is equivalent to your mastery of physics, McNutball.

Hey, can I interest you in a Jesus4000 fool injection system? A million parsecs to the hogshead! Would be more if it wasn't for the Arnott's conspiracy. Laughing


Man, you ought too really study on your focus there as you kinda slipping a little with that hogshead part...Is that what you use to worship you God with??? As I try to use my heart...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

McJesusBuiltMyMcCarburetor wrote:

In light of Isiah 6:9


Izzy's teev appears to be lying on its side with an aspect ratio like that. Laughing

Quote:
For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and loose His Soul...


You sure wouldn't want your Soul to get loose! Could be very unprofitable. Set the parking brake. See the owner's manual for instructions. Cheesy Grin

scribble wrote:
Oh well, I guess that really does wrap up the discussion nicely. It's a shame that MrCarbJB descended into religious nuttery and couldn't stick to scientific fact finding and actually be interested in a valid reason for his (and others) claims.


There's lots of reasons for McJesusCarb's nonsense. My favourite hypothesis at the moment is that he can't face the idea that he got sucked in by some stupid pseudoscience and has to defend his mistake to the death- or have to admit he's either wrong or simply made it all up.

Besides that, real life is boring. Some folks who are abject, chronic failures have a deep need to look important, to be seen as an insider. Though absent education, some failures want to appear to know something that educated people don't. Some failures wish to express distrust of government (which they don't understand) or of successful people, absent any success of their own.

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Honestly, 250mph using nothing but a <300HP V8 truck and HHO?


Oh hell, we do that out at Lake Gairdner all the time, but only to push-start the real race cars.

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What were Bugatti thinking, [...] they should have just contacted MrCarbJB!


Oh, I'm with you. Volkswagen engineers MUST be incompetent. Alert the media. Cheesy Grin

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Hmm, maybe Bugatti didn't perform the necessary prayer?


That's obvious. Captain Slow was only able to get it to go 407km/h (253mph).

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Thanks weez, nice to have someone take the absolute and utter piss out of this idiot.


I'll take no credit. I heard my large curd cottage cheese god laughing uproariously from the second shelf in my Kelvinator and I had to join in. Cheesy Grin

MrCarbJB wrote:

I start talking about God And you Think It's Over


I KNOW it's over when you descend into nonsense with even less supporting evidence than HHO HHO HHO.

You never answered my question about random capitalisations. Do those mean something beyond the fact that you're a functional illiterate? If you can't manage English, I've no confidence you can understand science.

MrCarbJB wrote:

Man, you ought too [sic] really study on your focus there as you [are] kinda slipping a little with that hogshead part...


Sorry, I thought you would either know what a hogshead was or might be troubled to look it up. Laughing

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Is that what you use to worship you [sic] God with??? As I try to use my heart...


I worship my cottage cheese god with a little salt. My heart is quite well occupied pumping blood. Yours can't seem to get any blood to your brain. Maybe you're not using it correctly. See owner's manual. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrCarbJB wrote:


...blah blah armchair racer crap blah blah... You didn't seem to think that wasn't that unbelievable, did you?


Everything you say is unbelievable. Your credibility factor is zero. You could tell me grass is green and I'd double check.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:01 am    Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

weez wrote:
MrCarbJB wrote:


...blah blah armchair racer crap blah blah... You didn't seem to think that wasn't that unbelievable, did you?


Everything you say is unbelievable. Your credibility factor is zero. You could tell me grass is green and I'd double check.
Then why don't you understand the Truth when you hear then as God said you would know the Truth when you hear it...Then why do you not understand that God Is Forgiveness as I Know It with every Fiber of My Being That He Is the very essence of It's meaning...For it is a gift and when you stop to think about it you will say, "Now Why didn't I think of that before as It is That simple...So God Is The Truth which is given only to those you will serve Him For His purpose...And the Lord confuses all with His Truth...So those who He wishes to receive His Gift will realize it and understand...As Forgiveness In our Hearts is the most God like that we can be...To bad you don't understand Our Lord no better as He makes you stick out like thorns for the trimming...While others must prepare for His Way...As Forgiveness Is His Way...And Is The Truth In My Heart for which I cling as you worship money...And Thank You for Your In-Put Here...
For The Lord Is My Shepard And I shall not want...

For how is it that one may crawl from a windshield and looking down and not seeing anything but the shaft after a 115 mph crash, with a solid object and not being hurt other than His Bruised Chest for a month...
For how is it that one may look into the face of God and not be devoured by the Grace Of God...
May God Bless Your every Fiber of Your Being...
As I know that I am Not Worthy...
Just as Moses, Isiah, John The Baptist, and the rest which Foretold of Him As It is He that does reveal it through which it was given to know and Proclaim Such as Grace draws neigh...Prepare His Way...
As He comes like a Thief In The Night...
So How Will Your Portion Be Measured Be Unto You...
As It Is Offered and Given Whether You are Friend or Foe Which makes it Amazing Grace...
For I am the least amoung you...As It Is Offered and Given Whether You are Friend or Foe Which makes it Amazing Grace...
As It Is Offered and Given Whether You are Friend or Foe Which makes it Amazing Grace...
As The Truth Is Self-Evident, Should You Know!!!

[Edit by Greg - I asked you to give it a rest MrCarbJB. Your account is suspended]
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

goddamn, sh!t, sonofabitch, Greg! I was just warming up my keyboard-fu. Cheesy Grin

s'okay, McTroll will soon be back under a new username and I'll get to sharpen the claws on my other hand, too. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stupid SOB is over here.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

minutiae59 wrote:
The stupid SOB is over here.


Just for fun, read the transcript of the tv show that link points to.

It (unsurprisingly) demonstrates that these devices do not work, and when tested objectively, the manufacturers claim the objective tests are wrong!

It is scam, all the way.

Apart from the true believers of course - they are so *beep* crazy they will make up any nonsense to make it seem real ... to them.

They need the rest of us to believe, too. Not because they want to change the world - though they probably rationalise it this way - but because they need their delusions to be believed for themselves.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

minutiae59 wrote:
The stupid SOB is over here.


He's been sh!tting all over the internet. Reposting this thread, generally annoying everyone. I DO think he's losing his sh!t, tho. When the nutballs go off on religiobabble tangents, they've got nothing left... but admission for inpatient treatment at the local psych ward.

BTMO, the True Believers are indeed completely delusional. A few innocents do get caught out by preponderance, though. Some folks without good critical thinking skills reckon that because there's 500 HHO HHO HHO vids on YT that there's something to it.

Ever notice how few of the HHO experimenters fail to include a flashback suppressor? BOOM, baby. Shocked Pseudoscience can be hazardous to your health in a big way...

edit: crappy construction


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg wrote:
MrCarbJB, give it a rest. Your ramblings are costing me bandwidth and if you continue your account will be suspended. This ain't your private preaching forum.


About time!!

Not to worry, he has an entirely new features topic to run up to 80+ pages (Alternative Energy)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL Reply with quote

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Honestly, 250mph using nothing but a <300HP V8 truck and HHO?

Oh hell, we do that out at Lake Gairdner all the time, but only to push-start the real race cars.

I'm interested in this.
I wrote what I wrote due to this bit from the wiki page on the Veyron:
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He also gave an indication of the power requirements, at constant 300 km/h (190 mph) the Veyron is using approximately 270 to 280 horsepower (200 to 210 kW), but to get to its rated 408 km/h (254 mph) top speed required far more from the engine.

Also from that page:
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Comparing a vehicle travelling at 160 km/h (99 mph) with one travelling at 320 km/h (200 mph), over a given time (e.g. 1 second), the faster vehicle must overcome 4 times the aerodynamic drag, and travel twice the distance of the slower one. Thus it does 8 times the work of the slower vehicle in that time. As power is work done in time taken it follows that the swifter vehicle, travelling at twice the speed requires 8 times the power of the slower one.

So, to go from 190MPH@280HP to 250MPH is approx 1/3 faster, meaning it would need about 2.6 times the power, which is around 500HP?

I suppose if the push-start truck is slipstreaming behind the race car, you wouldn't need as much power...?
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