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MrCarbJB
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 Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| James Bryer And let it be known that HHO Gadgetman/ Ron Hutton has admitted to me that he is putting his name on this and is in negotions to sell it to GM for what he called and offer of 50 million dollars so that is why I am putting my real name on it as anyone can claim to be MrCarbJB/James Bryer. |
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MrCarbJB
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Location: De Kalb, Texas
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| Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| Marc 1 wrote: | | MrCarbJB wrote: | | Marc 1 wrote: | Mr Carb,
These You Tube clips - do you have a fault with your cruise control? The whole point of a cruise control is to maintain a set speed - if you cruise control is engaged, why are you accelerating? |
Good to hear from you Marc 1, no there is no problem with my cruise control as it works just fine. As I set it on 72 mph as that is 70 mph according to the traffic as well as radar check along side the road ways.
Yes, I know that is the purpose of the cruise control and I can turn off the Electrolyzers and the speed will drop back to what the cruise was originally set on. That's why I videoed it. And it is kinda hard to drive and work the camera at the same time and the Family and or anyone else was camera shy and wouldn't help me with it. And I did it all before I knew anything about this or I'd made somebody get in there and help me with it. I was just showing how much of a difference the HHO was doing 1 to 3 more miles per hour gain from the addition of the second electrolyzer.
As it would not gain any from just the one and I had to remove the air filter box to install the second one. And I did put one of those cone shaped air filters on it to replace the air filter. I removed it so you could see how I had it all hooked up as it covered up the wiring on the relay and at that time I was running it thru the PCV valve inlet as direct vacuum on the cells which I later found out that arrangement didn't work well under loads as it let the engine vacuum get to low under load and it would set a code. So I have did away with that connection.
And it all works fine, now. And that is after its 30,000 mile oil change and that is 30,000 miles actually driven between oil changes. As the next one will be when it has 125,000 miles before I'll change it again. And it still has the same amount of power it had when I first modified it, which is quite powerful.
Oh and BTW, someone told me that they were going to steal this Idea and claim it as their own. So that is why I am sticking my real name on this. As anyone can claim to be MrCarbJB... |
So if I get what you are saying at 70MPH, your truck is accelerating despite having the cruise control engaged. And it did that with a large towed load. Yes, it is going up to 3 miles over the original cruise setting. And it didn't start this until I added the second electrolyzer so it is an example of how much HHO is needed to make a difference
If your cruise control is working correctly, then if set at 70MPH, it will reduce the throttle to idle if it continuing to over speed. But your vehicle is accelerating whilst at idle at 70MPH. Yes, it is. But it is not the throttle doing it. It is the addition of that second electrolyzer that did it.
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| Quote: | | I tried that on my manual transmission car (more aerodynamic, and not towing anything), I drove along at 120kph accelerating slightly, then 'locked' my accelerator foot against the side of the foot-well, then put my clutch in to the floor - the engine revs instantly went to the limiter and I had to re-engage the clutch so as to not damage the engine. Yet you told me this mod of yours barely altered the idle of the vehicle. How? |
Well if you'll notice in that one video After test drive, the HHO has raised the rpm up to 650 rpm and the vehicle wants to idle at 500 rpm. As that is what it runs whether in gear or in park, without any HHO.
Can you explain to me how this modification allows your engine at idle to produce so much power that it can force an unaerodynamic brick like yours whilst towing, without opening the throttle (a properly operating CC would have closed the throttle is you were 2 MPH above a set speed), yet allow the engine to idle normally (produce just enough power to prevent itself from stalling at 1000 RPM). This I just don't get. |
I understand your frustration Marc 1 and don't feel like you are alone in it as you are among good company...
Now you are starting to understand why I said it is to good to leave on the shelf as it is to good to be True, right? And now you understand why all the engineer have told me that I couldn't do what I was doing.
What you and everyone else is having a problem understanding is that this modification in which I have fully disclosed here is having that much difference in power and torque and when I added the other electrolyzer it added that much more to the overall equation as well as more U.S. mpg. And the videos are of my 2004 Blazer 4X4 in which I told you about using to pull a V-8 1 ton Dodge Diesel as well as the 16' X 30' on the trailer up a 3' to 4' embankment, with out spinning a wheel. And not much more than idle, anyway you know like lay your foot on it.
Well I did use it to tow my Toyota back from Lake Levon which is North of Dallas, TX. and is when I started noticing it and is when I fixed the lower engine vacuum by removing that direct engine vacuum T'd off the PCV Valve.
Now this is why I built the multi-cell for my 2500 3/4 ton full-crew cab and this one is what I used to haul all 42 RVs with and yes it would tow 11,180 lbs besides the 9200 lbs truck at 55 mph thru those several miles of construction zone idling if I didn't cut 2 of those cells off. As the speed limits thru those areas were 35 and 45 mph. And got 13.69 mpg with this load. As you know I never got more than 7.2 mpg, without a load, the way it came from the factory. And it would run off and leave all those V-8 turbo'd Diesels, like they were sitting still, even under load. Yeah it ought too as it had a 502 cu.in. motor in it but no physical turbo, just the effect. |
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Marc 1
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| Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| MrCarbJB wrote: | If your cruise control is working correctly, then if set at 70MPH, it will reduce the throttle to idle if it continuing to over speed. But your vehicle is accelerating whilst at idle at 70MPH. [b]Yes, it is. But it is not the throttle doing it. It is the addition of that second electrolyzer that did it.
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So the second electrolyser produces enough HHO to provide enough power to accelerate your truck? Given that as it accelerates the cruise control would back right off to idle - given that the HHO is added before the throttle plate I presume the mod you did allows this HHO past in sufficient volumes to allow that acceleration. How many litres per minute did you say your HHO units create? |
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MrCarbJB
Joined: 31 Jul 2008
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Location: De Kalb, Texas
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:18 am Post subject: Re: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| Marc 1 wrote: | | MrCarbJB wrote: | If your cruise control is working correctly, then if set at 70MPH, it will reduce the throttle to idle if it continuing to over speed. But your vehicle is accelerating whilst at idle at 70MPH. Yes, it is. But it is not the throttle doing it. It is the addition of that second electrolyzer that did it.
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So the second electrolyser produces enough HHO to provide enough power to accelerate your truck? [b]Yes, it does.
Given that as it accelerates the cruise control would back right off to idle No, it does not. As if you'll check those road test vehicles the rpm is staying equal to it's gearing if I understand that question correctly and please correct me if I'm wrong. - given that the HHO is added before the throttle plate I presume the mod you did allows this HHO past in sufficient volumes to allow that acceleration Yes, it does. How many litres per minute did you say your HHO units create?About one liter a minute |
And that is why I posted that one video of production after test test as it shows the amount visilually so they will know how much it takes of HHO to gain 1 to 3 more miles per hour, with the cruise control on. As it will coast a fairly long way with the cruise control turned off but it will not maintain that speed once the cruise control is turned off. And this effect was increased dramatically when I install that 4 cell multi-cell electrolyzer. But even with that cruise control turned off, and that multi-cell was at peek production, all it took was just let you foot rest on the accelerator pedal, while under that 11,180 lbs. load. And it would after I brake to allow for the 35 mph construction zones it would gain up to 55 mph in those construction zones. And with the cops laying in the bushes, I did confirm this several times as the big trucks were about to run over me on those single lane construction sites as they were miles long. And I guess those big trucks were hammer down and had a short time to get there. So where ever I could I'd let them by so the cops would sure to get them before me. And all it took was just a touch on that accelerator pedal and you could pass and play with any Big Rig V-8 Diesels out there all day long and it will never be able to pass you even under load... Unless you let it. And it is like nothing you have ever experience before... |
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minutiae59
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | And let it be known that HHO Gadgetman/ Ron Hutton has admitted to me that he is putting his name on this and is in negotions to sell it to GM for what he called and offer of 50 million dollars ... |
I assume this to be Ron Hatton who posted the following on his clubhho website:
| Quote: | | I'm getting 47% increase in MPG and am looking for 600% before I move on to my NEXT project, my wife's FLYING CAR! |
That last statement might actually be made in jest, although with you HHO guys, it's almost impossible to say.
In any case, please tell us more about the GM negotiations. In this brave new world with the Car Salesman in Chief calling the shots at GM and simultaneously burning thru mountains of our tax dollars, sad to say it really wouldn't surprise me to see a mere 50 million wasted on this idiocy.
But I doubt it. |
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Marc 1
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| MrCarbJB wrote: | | Marc 1 wrote: | | MrCarbJB wrote: | If your cruise control is working correctly, then if set at 70MPH, it will reduce the throttle to idle if it continuing to over speed. But your vehicle is accelerating whilst at idle at 70MPH. Yes, it is. But it is not the throttle doing it. It is the addition of that second electrolyzer that did it.
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So the second electrolyser produces enough HHO to provide enough power to accelerate your truck? [b]Yes, it does.
Given that as it accelerates the cruise control would back right off to idle No, it does not. As if you'll check those road test vehicles the rpm is staying equal to it's gearing if I understand that question correctly and please correct me if I'm wrong. - given that the HHO is added before the throttle plate I presume the mod you did allows this HHO past in sufficient volumes to allow that acceleration Yes, it does. How many litres per minute did you say your HHO units create?About one liter a minute |
And that is why I posted that one video of production after test test as it shows the amount visilually so they will know how much it takes of HHO to gain 1 to 3 more miles per hour, with the cruise control on. As it will coast a fairly long way with the cruise control turned off but it will not maintain that speed once the cruise control is turned off. And this effect was increased dramatically when I install that 4 cell multi-cell electrolyzer. But even with that cruise control turned off, and that multi-cell was at peek production, all it took was just let you foot rest on the accelerator pedal, while under that 11,180 lbs. load. And it would after I brake to allow for the 35 mph construction zones it would gain up to 55 mph in those construction zones. And with the cops laying in the bushes, I did confirm this several times as the big trucks were about to run over me on those single lane construction sites as they were miles long. And I guess those big trucks were hammer down and had a short time to get there. So where ever I could I'd let them by so the cops would sure to get them before me. And all it took was just a touch on that accelerator pedal and you could pass and play with any Big Rig V-8 Diesels out there all day long and it will never be able to pass you even under load... Unless you let it. And it is like nothing you have ever experience before... |
James,
Your cruise control cannot be working correctly then.
As you state: As it will coast a fairly long way with the cruise control turned off but it will not maintain that speed once the cruise control is turned off. So the devices and mods don't cause the truck to accelerate at 70MPH with Cruise off. Therefore with Cruise control on it should if it is working correctly stay at a set speed. The fact it doesn't shows that you are either going downhill or your cruise control is not working correctly. James, if you cannot tell if your Cruise control is working correctly and cannot see how the laws of thermodynamics apply here I do not have faith in this device.
Still, me telling you that should mean precisely squat to you as you are about to become a seriously rich man. If the GM deal comes through - after all GM will instantly be able to meet Pres Obama's new fuel economy rules without a worry. |
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MrCarbJB
Joined: 31 Jul 2008
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Location: De Kalb, Texas
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:08 am Post subject: Re: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| Marc 1 wrote: | | MrCarbJB wrote: | | Marc 1 wrote: | | MrCarbJB wrote: | If your cruise control is working correctly, then if set at 70MPH, it will reduce the throttle to idle if it continuing to over speed. But your vehicle is accelerating whilst at idle at 70MPH. Yes, it is. But it is not the throttle doing it. It is the addition of that second electrolyzer that did it.
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So the second electrolyser produces enough HHO to provide enough power to accelerate your truck? [b]Yes, it does.
Given that as it accelerates the cruise control would back right off to idle No, it does not. As if you'll check those road test vehicles the rpm is staying equal to it's gearing if I understand that question correctly and please correct me if I'm wrong. - given that the HHO is added before the throttle plate I presume the mod you did allows this HHO past in sufficient volumes to allow that acceleration Yes, it does. How many litres per minute did you say your HHO units create?About one liter a minute |
And that is why I posted that one video of production after test test as it shows the amount visilually so they will know how much it takes of HHO to gain 1 to 3 more miles per hour, with the cruise control on. As it will coast a fairly long way with the cruise control turned off but it will not maintain that speed once the cruise control is turned off. And this effect was increased dramatically when I install that 4 cell multi-cell electrolyzer. But even with that cruise control turned off, and that multi-cell was at peek production, all it took was just let you foot rest on the accelerator pedal, while under that 11,180 lbs. load. And it would after I brake to allow for the 35 mph construction zones it would gain up to 55 mph in those construction zones. And with the cops laying in the bushes, I did confirm this several times as the big trucks were about to run over me on those single lane construction sites as they were miles long. And I guess those big trucks were hammer down and had a short time to get there. So where ever I could I'd let them by so the cops would sure to get them before me. And all it took was just a touch on that accelerator pedal and you could pass and play with any Big Rig V-8 Diesels out there all day long and it will never be able to pass you even under load... Unless you let it. And it is like nothing you have ever experience before... |
James,
Your cruise control cannot be working correctly then.
As you state: As it will coast a fairly long way with the cruise control turned off but it will not maintain that speed once the cruise control is turned off. So the devices and mods don't cause the truck to accelerate at 70MPH with Cruise off. Therefore with Cruise control on it should if it is working correctly stay at a set speed. The fact it doesn't shows that you are either going downhill or your cruise control is not working correctly. James, if you cannot tell if your Cruise control is working correctly and cannot see how the laws of thermodynamics apply here I do not have faith in this device.
Still, me telling you that should mean precisely squat to you as you are about to become a seriously rich man. If the GM deal comes through - after all GM will instantly be able to meet Pres Obama's new fuel economy rules without a worry. |
Well Marc, I didn't want to sell it 30 yrs ago so what makes you think I want to sell it now.
And the reason it loses speed when you take you foot off of it is it looses
it's draft in the throttle body from aerodynamic drag and rolling resistance and just touching the throttle pedal is enough to keep the draft going to maintain that speed.
As it would gain up to 20 mph under load through those construction sites-member? And the only reason it will coast that far is the effects of that HHO on the combustion. you could easily being doing 200 mph and just barely touch that throttle and it would maintain it, understand now???
And you don't have to have faith in the device as it will give you faith once you have witnessed it. As the effects are like daylight and dark.
What I have a hard time believing is no one else here has tried this or bothered to come back and declare it unless they are like Mr HHO Gadgetman, trying to figure out how to steal something and sell it as his own... As I may look dumb and I may sound dumb but that is what deceives you as I'm much smarter than you think... As some may say, "It is how I roll."
I made this public knowledge so those whom I have talked too have no excuse not to embrace this now as I've said, they wouldn't talk to me about it as I didn't have a Patent. They don't have that excuse any more.
And as long as no one cares to publish their findings on this then why would they care as they are just a reflection of us all, right?
As I have submitted this in order that the benefits of it's use may be known to all and benefit all.
And like I've said, I don't care what anyone thinks of me as that it unimportant to me, it is what you think of my work that counts as that it how you should know me...And is how we should know all, understand???
As good scientist would check out these claims irregardless of what they thought of me, just to see if nothing else and in which would declare such whether positive or negative...As none have as of yet, except for Curtis and HHOGadgetman and I guess we can all see what HHOGadgetman thought of it...As I'm not really mad at him as he thought it was worth stealing...What matters there is when confronted with his error, he claimed none...therefore the Truth is not in him...As it is written...And I have publicly exposed him for what he is in order that anyone who may have dealings with this person should know who they are dealing with...As I believe that he is full of snake oil too, now...And if I hadn't exposed him for what he is then I would be as guilty of the same thing. I just gave him enough rope to hang his self. And to show his true colors, he has kicked me out of his club house...So he has shown me at least that he can't be trusted as he will seize any opportunity without any regards to others of his actions, so long as it is to his benefit...And if that includes defrauding his investors to claim it is to their benefit that he tell them a lie then it should be known of him. As the whole premise becomes based on a lie, which I refuse to be a part of...And I won't stand by and let it happen, if I can prevent it. As he would claim that his 24 day involvement entitles him to 90% of my 30 yrs of hard work to try to bring this to fruition for everyone's benefit. And he would sell it today and claim that 90% as his own. So if that sounds like someone you'd like to get to know then have at him...And what I've seen of his work, I wouldn't give you 2 cents for...As he thinks he is justified in charging a $1000.00 for what he claims is his mod...So yall go ahead and jump on his ban waggon if you like...As it is totally up to you...And if what I have said about this man is wrong then it is because he is wrong...And he should change his behavior...But according to him he is right as he is just looking out for number 1. Right??? Oh well, enough with him...As you should know them by their works...Need I say more???
And as I have said many times, I don't care about the money, if I didn't accept the $500,000,000.00 that was on the table 30 yrs. ago what makes you think I would sell out for 10% of 50,000,000.00.
Yeah, that's what I have been trying to tell you that it is that good...So my advice to you is if at all possible, you do need this on your vehicle so at least try it on something so you may gain your faith and get it done to yours as it may just might help someone out down the road that does need it in these economic times... |
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minutiae59
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | As it would gain up to 20 mph under load through those construction sites-member? And the only reason it will coast that far is the effects of that HHO on the combustion. you could easily being doing 200 mph and just barely touch that throttle and it would maintain it, understand now??? |
Are you implying your truck will go 200 mph with HHO? |
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MrCarbJB
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 7:43 am Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| minutiae59 wrote: | | Quote: | | As it would gain up to 20 mph under load through those construction sites-member? And the only reason it will coast that far is the effects of that HHO on the combustion. you could easily being doing 200 mph and just barely touch that throttle and it would maintain it, understand now??? |
Are you implying your truck will go 200 mph with HHO? |
No, I am not implying it, I am declaring that it would run so fast that it can't run any faster because the drive wheels will become air borne...And floating across the highway from side to side...While the drive wheels are barking like a dog every time they come down out of the air and touch the payment... |
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minutiae59
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| Ahh, so this whole exercise has been a put-on. I was beginning to think so. |
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MrCarbJB
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| minutiae59 wrote: | | Ahh, so this whole exercise has been a put-on. I was beginning to think so. |
NAHH, it's not. It is the Truth. And you ought to learn how to listen for it... As you would save us a lot of time here if you did...But maybe you are afraid that you may become the next HHOGadgetman...Then I don't blame you...As I don't want to go through that again... |
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minutiae59
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:49 pm Post subject: Jimbo is an idiot |
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Wow - this just keeps getting better and better.
So how much HP does your 8.1 generate? Certainly you did dyno it to verify the supercalifragilisticexpialidocious horsepower gain that allows a 7000+ lb truck to fly. Or are you running it on Red Bull? |
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MrCarbJB
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:56 pm Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| minutiae59 wrote: | Wow - this just keeps getting better and better.
So how much HP does your 8.1 generate? Certainly you did dyno it to verify the supercalifragilisticexpialidocious horsepower gain that allows a 7000+ lb truck to fly. Or are you running it on Red Bull? |
Well minitiae 59, when you are ready to get serious let me know... |
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minutiae59
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| I am serious. How much HP does it take to get three and a half tons off the ground? |
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MrCarbJB
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| minutiae59 wrote: | | I am serious. How much HP does it take to get three and a half tons off the ground? |
Well isn't that more in your line of work as you should know as you are the mechanical engineer here. This is where you get to shine so I don't want to take nothing away from you... As I know how to do it, isn't it your job to figure out what it would take to accomplish such a feat??? |
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minutiae59
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OK - You can't answer that one. I really didn't expect you to. Let's try this one instead - what speed are you going when the wheels become airborne?
Extra credit - does this occur while towing?
(Edit) Note: If this thing will idle at 55 mph, it must be one helluva fast truck. |
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Online Gamer
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You need to realize, minutiae59. McCarb is an xpert on everything, you will learn this, as the 2600+ posts of utter *beep* in this topic shows
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MrCarbJB
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 3:50 am Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| Online Gamer wrote: | You need to realize, minutiae59. McCarb is an xpert on everything, you will learn this, as the 2600+ posts of utter *beep* in this topic shows
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Thank You, Online Gamer as I can always depend on your loyal following. And thanks for being there... |
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MrCarbJB
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:28 am Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| minutiae59 wrote: | OK - You can't answer that one. I really didn't expect you to. Let's try this one instead - what speed are you going when the wheels become airborne?
Extra credit - does this occur while towing?
(Edit) Note: If this thing will idle at 55 mph, it must be one helluva fast truck. |
Oh indeed I answered your Question but you refuse to accept it. As I said it ran so fast that the drive wheels came off the ground and the whole vehicle was floating on the air and could not run any faster as the drive wheels were barking like a dog as they lifted and touched back down. Sorry you couldn't answer your part of it. As you know it wouldn't be fair to read the speedometer if it could have measured that fast as it is stock equipped. As every time the wheels would lift it would not show the accurate speed. So how fast do you have to go to make a certain weighted vehicle to become on the that described edge of lift off??? I was thinking in the neighborhood of 250 mph give or take as I didn't have any spoilers on it like the Nascar folks.
But hey, that guy with the Big Rig may of had one installed in his rig since he seemed to be enjoying what he was doing. And I wasn't trying to do it as I've said, I was just playing with him. But I have had a chance to talk to one of his friends that knows him peasonally and he told me that the guy had a V-8 Diesel rig which was capable of doing a 140 mph plus loaded. And I tried to show him that he wasn't a match while towing my 3,300 lbs. RV behind me. As I ran off and left him like he was sitting still at his speed. As he seemed that I must have shown him up in front of all his CB truck driving buddies to which he obviously invited to the event as they were lined up in anticapation along the side of the road as we passed.
And I can only guess that the cop that was in Hope was the only deterent that slowed the guy in the Big Rig down as I thought this guy was trying to run over me at times as I would slow so he could pass and he just slowed down with me. So I don't know what this guy was thinking as I asked his friend to have the guy to call me but he has yet to call. Sorry I can't fill in the rest of those details for you.
And he wasn't playing fair the next time we met on that open highway. As evidently he had folks looking for me as they tried dumping stuff out in front of my truck and sent a rolling road block out to greet me to impede my progress enough to allow him to catch up. But he must of have got the cops attention along his way to greet me as rolling road block set me up for him to catch up to me while I was passing the three of them he caught up to me as I was passing the last truck and it felt like he had clamped down on my bumper and hit the brakes as he was definitely trying to get my undivided attention. So I didn't know what the deal was as I pulled over to allow him to go by and he definitely wanted to show me his red needle nose PeterBuilt Tractor as he slowly went by. So I went to pull over so we might settled this and all his buddies just kept going so as I was passing the last truck again I noticed that the three of them were all slowing down and that last truck had his rear white cab light on. So as I passed him I noticed the company of 2 dodge turbo'd diesel trucks in my review so I pulled over as we reached the bottom of the hill and as they passed me, I saw the passenger in the first one throw his hands in the air as in frustration and they both slowed down after that and I let that last truck pass me and I followed him as far as I was going and left him with it.
So there are witnesses out there, you just choose to ignore them as the evidence. |
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MrCarbJB
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minutiae59
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Well, there you go, folks.
After 86 pages and a myriad of pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo, we’ve come down to this - Jimbo claims his throttle body mod in conjunction with an insignificant whiff of hydrogen is capable of making one of these run so fast “… the drive wheels came off the ground and the whole vehicle was floating on the air …” This, he claimed, occurs in “…the neighborhood of 250 mph give or take…” Let’s also recall he claims this truck will travel 55 mph when pulling an 11,000 lb load while idling.
Now remember, this is an otherwise stock truck. The 8.1L engine was rated at 340 HP from the factory. Taking his claims at face value, in order to achieve 250 mph in this truck, the engine would probably need to be making somewhere north of 1200 HP, which would be an increase of 250% over stock. And at the same time, he’s also managed to reduce fuel consumption by almost half.
That bears repeating - 150 HP/liter accomplished with a dremel and a grade school science experiment.
This is b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t., plain and simple. |
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MrCarbJB
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:03 am Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| minutiae59 wrote: | Well, there you go, folks.
After 86 pages and a myriad of pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo, we’ve come down to this - Jimbo claims his throttle body mod in conjunction with an insignificant whiff of hydrogen is capable of making one of these run so fast “… the drive wheels came off the ground and the whole vehicle was floating on the air …” This, he claimed, occurs in “…the neighborhood of 250 mph give or take…” Let’s also recall he claims this truck will travel 55 mph when pulling an 11,000 lb load while idling.
Now remember, this is an otherwise stock truck. The 8.1L engine was rated at 340 HP from the factory. Taking his claims at face value, in order to achieve 250 mph in this truck, the engine would probably need to be making somewhere north of 1200 HP, which would be an increase of 250% over stock. And at the same time, he’s also managed to reduce fuel consumption by almost half.
That bears repeating - 150 HP/liter accomplished with a dremel and a grade school science experiment.
This is b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t., plain and simple. |
Thanks for all that credit surely, I am undeserving of all that credit. And I really do appreciate your opinion as it does mean so much, here. Because what you said, made what I did mean so much more is why I said that for any of those who would think that I wouldn't.
To Bad though about you not being able to know the truth when you hear it, though as it is a bad reflection on you... |
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minutiae59
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| No, no, no - you deserve all the credit. To maintain a farce like this is a unique talent. |
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MrCarbJB
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:44 am Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| minutiae59 wrote: | | No, no, no - you deserve all the credit. To maintain a farce like this is a unique talent. |
And that farce you mentioned is a pretty good looking truck as it looks exactly like the one I had. And thanks again for posting it as I lost all of my pics of it. And thank you for your comment about my unique talent but really, all it is, is the simple Truth. |
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Online Gamer
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| minutiae59 wrote: | | No, no, no - you deserve all the credit. To maintain a farce like this is a unique talent. |
We are hoping he will continue to make a fool out of himself to at least 100 pages.
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MrCarbJB
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 11:30 am Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| Online Gamer wrote: | | minutiae59 wrote: | | No, no, no - you deserve all the credit. To maintain a farce like this is a unique talent. |
We are hoping he will continue to make a fool out of himself to at least 100 pages.
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Well Online Gamer, I notice that you finally got that busted web-site fixed. It's about time. And that word fool that you keep playing with is the path of Hell. So, I wouldn't use that word. Now dumb and ignorant is fine. But who are you to Judge anyway as you have done shown us that you haven't a clue... |
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minutiae59
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Speaking of fools, this comment was posted at the Popular Mechanics website attached to an article in which they laid the usual smackdown on the HHO wankers:
COME ON! If this doesn't work why did the United States military use it in World War 2? The US was running out of fuel and this was implemented. In as much, the second rule of thermodynamics is true in a "closed system" which does not exist in real life. If the second rule of thermodynamics (which was made way before my great grandfather was) was true in an open system, things like water pumps wouldn't work at all. Why is hydrogen power being used by the terminator? Also in the Munich airport. Come on people, you can quibble about why this rule and that rule says it shouldn't be possible, but it is working. people are building these things in their garages and having success with mileage and power. Also the engine runs cleaner because it doesn't build up carbon deposits. Hydrogen is what we use to put people into outer space and it won't add power to your regular fuel burn? that doesn't even make sense.
I hi-lited what I believe could be the pinnacle of HHO stupidity.
Just like the fool here and his amazing levitating truck, you'd hope this was parody, but sad to say it probably is not. |
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MrCarbJB
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 12:17 pm Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| minutiae59 wrote: | Speaking of fools, this comment was posted at the Popular Mechanics website attached to an article in which they laid the usual smackdown on the HHO wankers:
COME ON! If this doesn't work why did the United States military use it in World War 2? The US was running out of fuel and this was implemented. In as much, the second rule of thermodynamics is true in a "closed system" which does not exist in real life. If the second rule of thermodynamics (which was made way before my great grandfather was) was true in an open system, things like water pumps wouldn't work at all. Why is hydrogen power being used by the terminator? Also in the Munich airport. Come on people, you can quibble about why this rule and that rule says it shouldn't be possible, but it is working. people are building these things in their garages and having success with mileage and power. Also the engine runs cleaner because it doesn't build up carbon deposits. Hydrogen is what we use to put people into outer space and it won't add power to your regular fuel burn? that doesn't even make sense.
I hi-lited what I believe could be the pinnacle of HHO stupidity.
Just like the fool here and his amazing levitating truck, you'd hope this was parody, but sad to say it probably is not. |
| Quote: | Hydrogen is what we use to put people into outer space and it won't add power to your regular fuel burn? that doesn't even make sense.[/i]
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Well I think this a bad example of your intended meaning as I'm not sure what they are saying as your Highlighting didn't work...
As it is easily explained as a mistake as you can't edit those comments after they are submitted. And further more I didn't make that comment. So it would be something that you should make your inquiry of it's Author, not me.
As to why would you submit it here as it only distracts from the focus of any understanding of what I have said. So your injection of it here must be seen as your attempt to confuse any understanding here. |
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MrCarbJB
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| Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:11 am Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| Quote: | And in light of the present administration maybe you would embrace it's views more if you only had a clue...
I guess you're referring to Obama here. What does the Messiah have to do with that Army/FBI tin-foil hat tale?
{"commentId":7319768,"threadId":"546884","contentId":"2644922","authorDomain":"tech-9"}!#42 - Wed May 27, 2009 9:12 PM CDT{"commentId":7323454,"authorDomain":"mrcarbjb"}James Bryer |
| Quote: | Messiah, how did the Messiah get into this conversation. As my understanding of Him will be when He set foot on the Mount of Olives when He comes back, just like it is written of Him. So maybe you should be reading that so you will know what is written of Him. For I am nothing compared to Him, only a brother in His New Covenant. And He doesn't suffer dumb spirits. So you may want to read up on Him so He will not find you dumb of Him. For I have made no such claim to be the Messiah, nor have I implied such.
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http://world-news.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/05/2644922-fast-money-car-device-sellers-scheme-unravels?&threadId=546884&commentId=7325329#c7325329
Maybe we should be holding Bible Class, instead of this...
For The Lord Is My Shepard and I shall not want... |
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MrCarbJB
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: hho works, and so does MrCarbs mod. Truth Overcomes ALL |
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| I James Bryer aka MrCarbJB, would like to Publicly apologize to Ron Hutton for my Public Assination that I have accused Him of as I have re-examined the evidence this morning and have realized that Ron Hutton's aka HHO Gadgetman's design is clearly his own and Therefore his own. For I have no entitlement to his design nor does it infringe on my design. And I am truely sorry about the false allegation that I have made against him. As I did not realize this when I made them. And clearly he is entitled to do with it as he may and he should be commented for his own interptation of it...Please accept my humble apology Ron Hutton as I did not understand this at the time... |
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